“For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed” (John 3:20). Since some Muslims try really hard to get videos removed from YouTube with their flagging campaigns; in this posting, I want to address those Muslims specifically. What are you afraid of? What does that say about your religion; that you have to connive and scheme to keep people from knowing the truth? Again, what are you afraid of? It seems that you’re actually afraid for people to know what the Islamic scriptures actually say, which this audience will begin to find out why as they continue reading.
But in your defense, Allah was afraid for people to know the truth too, as we find in Qur’an Surah 5:101-102, “O you who believe! Ask not about things which if were made plain to you, may cause you trouble. But if you ask about them while the Qur’an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you." Now let’s stop right here. Allah just said for Muslims not ask questions, but they can ask questions and I quote, “while the Qur’an is being revealed.” The Qur’an was revealed 1400 years ago. So if Muslims today have a question, sorry your out of luck, because as the Qur’an says and I quote again, “But if you ask about them while the Qur’an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you;” anyway, moving on with Qur’an Surah 5:101-102, “Before you a community asked such questions, then on that account they became disbelievers.” So I can see why you don’t want people to know the truth, because as Allah himself said, ask questions about Islam and you’ll stop believing in it. I guess that’s why Allah said in Qur’an Surah 4:89, “They but wish that you should reject faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah. But if they turn renegades, seize them and kill them wherever you find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.” Seize and kill those who turn renegades. Well, since we’re dealing with life or death here, let’s check with Allah’s messenger Muhammad, just to be sure we understand who Allah’s talking about when he’s telling Muslims to seize and kill those who turn renegades. Bukhari V4B52N260, “If someone (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.” Well, you can’t get much clearer than that.
So according to Allah, not only can’t you ask any questions, but if you leave Islam and Muslims find you, they’re to kill you. And one other thing that Allah says in Qur’an Surah 4:89, and that is Muslims are not to make friends with non-Muslims. This not making friends with the infidels seems to be very important, because Allah said the same thing in Qur’an Surah 5:51, “O you who believe! Take not Jews or Christians as friends. They are but friends to each other. And if any among you takes them as friends, then surely he is one of them.” Don’t take Jews or Christians as friends; no wonder the Muslim world hates us. Their god commands them not to make friends with us.
For those of you hoping for an Islamic reformation, if you check your history, the Protestant Reformation started after the printing press was invented and people began to read the Bible for themselves. So why is it that the more a Muslim reads the Qur’an, the more violent it is they become? On this subject of Islamic reformation, let’s see what Muhammad had to say about such things; speaking as if he was in Allah’s paradise, Muhammad said in Bukhari V9B88N174, “Far removed (from mercy), far removed (from mercy), those who changed the religion after me.”
Anyway, if the threat of death and torment isn’t enough to keep Muslims inline, Allah went one step further in ensuring his control, and that can be summed up in one word: Hijab. That’s the name of the covering that Muslims women have to wear when the leave their home or are in the presence of men who are not their family members, because as you’ll learn (and as the people of Europe are beginning to learn), Muslim men cannot be called upon to control themselves. To best explain this, I’ll post the history of why Muslim women wear the Hijab and the command from Allah that they wear it, putting it in story form; then I’ll post from the Islamic text the same material. By doing so I think it will become clear to all non-Muslims as to why Muslims don’t want people to know what their scriptures actually say; I mean after all, look at what great lengths they went to try and silence Salman Rushdie.
Anyway, here’s Bukhari’s Hadith and Qur’an Surah 33 in story form: Umar, wanting to make sure that women are "kept in their place," continually goes to Muhammad and says, "You need to have your wives veiled." Muhammad says, "I don't think that's necessary Umar" and ignores his pleas. Not giving up on his idea, Umar thinks up a plan and hides out in the area where the women go to use the bathroom at night. Although it was dark, Umar recognizes Muhammad's wife Sauda because she was so tall and says to her (while she's using the restroom?), "Ah ha, I can recognize you!" Immediately Umar runs to Muhammad and says, "I could recognize your wife Sauda when she went out to go to the toilet." Not quite knowing what to say, Muhammad dismisses Umar, and retires for the evening.
The next day however, Muhammad comes out and says, "I've received a revelation from Allah commanding that all the women be veiled, and this is what he told me. Allah said, 'O great prophet, Allah’s apostle, lord of the sent ones, leader of the Allah fearing, apostle of the lord of the worlds, the peerless, the unequaled (Ishaq’s The Life of Muhammad, page 234), tell your wives, your daughters, and all the Muslim women to cover their entire bodies, leaving only their faces exposed. That is the best way for the men to know the women are Muslims, so they won’t bother them. But if you men do bother the women, know that Allah is very merciful and will always forgive you. Now if there are any Muslims out there who don’t follow this or any of my other decrees or if they spread false rumors as to why I have handed down this Surah—curses—they are sick twisted fools and I want you to get rid of them. Seize them wherever they are and kill them! That is the way I have always dealt with people, and that is the way I always will.'”
Unbelievable you say? Here’s the story straight from the Islamic text, beginning with Bukhari V1B4N148, "The wives of the prophet used to go to Al-Manasi, a vast open place (near Baqia at Medina) to answer the call of nature at night. Umar used to say to the prophet "Let your wives be veiled," but Allah's apostle did not do so. One night Sauda bint Zam'a the wife of the prophet went out at 'Isha' time and she was a tall lady. Umar addressed her and said, "I have recognized you, O Sauda." He said so, as he desired eagerly that the verses of Al-Hijab (the observing of veils by the Muslim women) may be revealed. So Allah revealed the verses of "Al-Hijab" (A complete body cover excluding the eyes)."
Qur'an Surah 33:59-62, "O prophet! Tell your wives, your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks over their bodies. That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allah is ever oft-forgiving, most merciful. If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts are a disease and those who spread false news among the people in Medina do not stop, we shall certainly let you overpower them, and their days in the city—as your neighbors—will be numbered. Accursed, they shall be seized wherever found, and killed with a terrible slaughter. That was they way of Allah in the case of those who passed away of old, and you will not find any change in the way of Allah."
No wonder Muslims continually carry on flagging campaigns. The truth is devastating for Islam. John 8:32, “And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
Additional Notes: For those of you who may want to know more on why women are treated so poorly in Islamic society, here are a couple of Islamic scriptures that will help you to understand why:
1) The History of al-Tabari Volume I, page 280, “Because Allah afflicted Eve, all of the women of this world menstruate and are stupid."
2) Bukhari V1B6N301, “Once Allah's apostle went out to offer the prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of hell-fire were you women. They asked, Why is it so, O Allah's apostle? He replied, You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you. The women asked, O Allah's apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion? He said, Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man? They replied in the affirmative. He said, This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses? The women replied in the affirmative. He said, This is the deficiency in her religion."
Muhammad said in the last Hadith that a woman’s menses was a sign of her being deficient in the religion. The following scripture (and I do mean scripture because Sunni Muslims consider Bukhari and Muslim’s Hadiths Islamic scripture) is an example of why Muslims don’t want people to know what their scriptures actually say: Bukhari V9B93N639 (Narrated by Aisha), "The prophet used to recite the Quran with his head in my lap while I used to be in my periods (having menses)."
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It's blogs like these that make me happy I'm an atheist. You're spending some fairly reasonable amounts of brainpower comparing two extremely old books and two invisible men in the sky. Do you actually _know_ any muslims? They're not all hell-bent on terror and violence. Most of them just want their kids to grow up safe, smart, and successful, same as everyone else.
The best response to your ill-informed conclusion is Lebanon. In the 1950's Lebanon was a "Christian Nation." It was called the "Switzerland of the Middle East." Now look at Lebanon today now that it's a majority "Muslim Nation." What was it, if it wasn't Islam that has caused Lebanon to descend into chaos and violence?
So I would argue that a number of factors led to the devolution of Lebanon since the 1950s. First, prior to 1943 Lebanon was a colony of France, which meant that you had a French civil structure imposed on the Lebanese, and typical colonial relationship between French Christians, Lebanese Christians, and Lebanese Muslims. You can guess for yourself the pecking order of those three. After independence, you still had the original players in place with the French and Christians at the top of the food chain, but now the downtrodden Muslims had some political voice. Fast Forward to the 1948 Arab-Israeli conflict and you see 100,000+ Palestinian refugees move into Lebanon, certainly disturbing the social fabric (not to mention stressing the powers of the government to provide for its people).
The backdrop to the 50s and 60s was Nasser's Pan-Arab Nationalism, which was an effort towards unification of the Arab world after the retreat of colonial powers after WWII. When the Arabs started gravitating towards the Soviets for support, Lebanon was in a precarious place: the Christians (mainly of French descent) looked West to the US and Europe, while the Muslims (mainly of Arab descent) looked East to their Arab brothers.
So now the Lebanese are looking south to Israel, and are experiencing an unofficial invasion of Palestinian refugees on their southern border. Clashes between Lebanese and Palestinians begin to occur, which spread to clashes between Christians and Muslims. Militias on both sides caused major damage to the national infrastructure. The Karantina massacre, carried out by Christian militias, resulted in the death of over 1,000 people and devastated much of southern Beirut.
The root cause of those conflicts wasn't a Christian/Muslim conflict - it was a Rich/Poor conflict, where the Lebanese were forced to shoulder the burden of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees escaping Israel. The Rich in this case happened to be the French Christians leftover from the colonial period. Religion served only as a call to arms for both sides, and an easy way to declare an enemy in an increasingly crappy situation. The cause of Lebanon's devolution was the years of conflict the country endured.
If you want a parallel to this that doesn't involve Islam, look at Rwanda and its neighbors during the end of the Belgian colonial period and the years until now.
I'd disagree. I think that Africa probably takes the cake for most tyrannical and least educated. Regionally, Arab states have a literacy rate of around 70%, while sub-Saharan Africa is around 60% (along with South Asia). And why do they need to be productive? They have the West buying all their natural resources for $$$. Libya has it right, they're financing public education infrastructure and attempting to attract manufacturing companies there with subsidies. Bahrain and the UAE are fast becoming economic powers. Admittedly, there are places that still are backwater: Kuwait totally exploits the poor, Morocco is so far backwards its embarrassing, and Indonesia needs to learn how to love its Hindus. However, in comparison to sub-Saharan Africa(SSA), they're all doing fairly well. SSA's poverty rate is around 40%, and there have been so many revolutions there it's hard to count them. Add to that the fact that SSA is predominately Christian (thanks to colonial influence) and your argument that Islam is the source of intellectual and financial poverty in the world doesn't hold water. Additionally, terror groups are spread all over the place: ETA in Spain, Shining Path in Peru, FARC in Colombia, Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, PKK in Turkey, Aum Shinrikyo in Japan, etc, etc. It's not a uniquely Muslim institution.
On your first part of your answer, I have to congratulate you on that. But one thing to consider, if tou look at any poll in the Muslim world, 10% openly support Al-Qaeda and an almost an additional 20% refuse to answer. 10% of 1 billion Muslim is 100 million.
That's nonsensical. If 10% of Muslims support Al-Qaeda, that doesn't mean that 10% are willing to take up arms at the drop of the hat. 250 million Americans support the US military, but only 1.4 million actually serve. I support an Obama presidency, but I don't go out and put a sticker on my car or work a phone bank. People probably support AQ as they signify a resistance to what they feel is a Western encroachment on traditional values in their society and Western intervention in what they feel are regional or domestic issues.
Instead of leaving comments telling me what you think about the Muslim world, why don't you read the Qur'an and the Hadiths. Islam is not what you or I think it is, but it's what the Qur'an and the Hadists say it is. Nothing more, nothing less.
In those books it tells that it's a Muslims obligation to kill the disbelievers until they either kill them, convert them, or subjegate them under Islamic rule; "Fight against those who believe not in Allah...until they pay the submission tax with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued" (Qur'an 9:29), "Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you and let them find harshness in you" (Qur'an 9:123), and "When the sacred months have passed, then kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wiat for them in every ambush (Qur'an 9:5). Now research and find out what happens to any non-Muslim in liberal Turkey or Indonesia who even talks about Christianity, Buddhism, or any other religion to a Muslim or criticize Islam. They are arrested and the masses call for their death. Why don't you click under the Mein Kampf - Al-Jihad at the Imperium In Imperio link and read what you find. If you want to continue this conversation email me at my YouTube account.
See, but that's the problem, you're extrapolating the craziness from the Qur'an and the Hadiths to the current residents of the Middle East. That would be like extrapolating the craziness of the Bible to residents of the US and Israel. For instance:
We don't stone rebellious kids:
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. (Deut. 21:18-21)
We don't subjugate women:
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak.... And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home. (1 Corinthians 14:34-35)
There are nutcases everywhere who adhere to the very letter of whatever holy book they read. That's what makes them crazy. Civilized folk, both Muslims an Christians, take their holy teachings with a grain of salt and understand that it's not meant to be a literal interpretation. Saying all Muslims are crazy bombmakers that want nothing more than to paint the world green for Allah is like saying that all Christians blow up abortion clinics and beat up homosexuals because the Lord told them they were evil, not to mention that they're on a holy quest to convert the world to Christianity. You certainly don't strike me as a clinic bomber ready to shoot a lesbian couple on sight. ;-)
Instead of judging Muslims with broad strokes based on the actions of some outspoken radicals, why not know them individually? Judge them on the content of their character, rather than the God they pray to or the book they read.
Okay, I'll email you the rest of the conversation. But why not leave it on the blog?
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